模板定偏了!英格拉姆和新秀阿杜有可比性吗?合适的对比该是普林斯

For those familiar with Kevin Durant's rookie season, what would you say the biggest differences are between rookie Durant and current Brandon Ingram? (self.nba)

那些熟悉凯文-杜兰特新秀赛季表现的人来说说， 你们觉得新秀杜兰特和现在的布兰登-英哥拉姆有啥区别吗？

in terms of overall game, play style etc.?

就整体的技术角度和球风之类的来说说？

[–]LakersHolajuwon34 59 指標 10小時前 

Rookie KD was 20x better as a scorer

新秀杜兰特作为得分手来说要强上20倍。

[–]CelticsWarlandoboom 2 指標 10小時前 

Basketball skills.

篮球技术上更强。

[–][LAL] Shaquille O'Nealtripledoubles 25 指標 10小時前 

He was better at everything in his rookie year

新秀杜兰特所有方面都更强。

[–][LAL] Luke Waltonredbrick 34 指標 10小時前 

Kevin Durant could actually shoot

凯文-杜兰特实际上是有投射的。

[–]CelticsBrad-Stevens 12 指標 10小時前 

I mean he averaged 20+ on 43% shooting

我的意思是阿杜新秀当年也是43%命中率场均20+得分呐。

[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingisabippityboop 19 指標 10小時前 

Yeah the Kevin Durant comparison was unfair to begin with, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that these are 2 very different players. Not even talking about skill level, which Durant was much better than Ingram his rookie year, they just play a completely different game.

Ingram seems to project to more of a Batum type player to me. A tall, lanky wing who can defend multiple positions, get to the rim, make plays in transition, and hopefully develop a 3 point shot.

没错，拿凯文杜兰特来对比英哥拉姆从一开始就是不公平的。但是现在很明显了，他们两人就是非常不同类型的球员。都不用提技术层面的事了，杜兰特新秀年比英格拉姆强多了，他们的比赛是完全不同的。

我个人觉得，英格拉姆看起来更像是以巴图姆为模板类项的球员。一个非常瘦高的翼侧球员，能防多个位置，能攻击篮筐，能在攻防转换中制造机会，还有希望开发出3分球。

[–]RaptorsBismackMyBiyombo 9 指標 10小時前 

Tayshan Prince

（模板该是)泰肖恩-普林斯

[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingisabippityboop 3 指標 10小時前 

Yeah damn that might be even better. Was trying to find someone active, but Prince is dead on. Maybe somewhere in the middle? I think Ingram could probably develop into a slightly better playmaker than Prince, but who knows.

没错，卧槽，普林斯的对比要更加好一些。我之前想找一个现役的球员模板呢，但是普林斯是完全合适的。也许介于普林斯和巴图姆之间吧？ 我认为英格拉姆很可能发展成为一个组织进攻稍微加强版的普林斯， 但是谁知道呢。

[–]Lakersvictor396 3 指標 9小時前 

Prince was a really good conductor for the ball, he just didn't shine in that aspect because of Billups

普林斯实际上在传导球上真的非常出色， 只是因为有比卢普斯在，他的那方面特长没有发挥出来罢了。 

[–]HornetsYizWasHere 8 指標 10小時前 

Batum actually seems like a really good comparison. Ingram's got a good shot to make that leap that Batum never could though.

我觉得巴图姆是个真的非常不错的对比。 不过英格拉姆比起巴图姆来说更有机会大爆发打出来。

[–]Nuggetsadamisinterested 28 指標 10小時前* 

KD entered the league as an elite scorer from all over the floor. His defense were maybe a little worse than Ingram, but he was a top 20ish offensive player from day 1.

阿杜进入联盟时就已经是场上无所不能的精英级得分手了。 他当时的防守也许比英格拉姆稍微差一些，但是阿杜从第一天起就是前20的进攻端球员。

[–]johncenatbh 11 指標 10小時前 

He wasn't an elite scorer, he was called inefficient and a blackhole, averaged more TO than assists, in the 2nd year he turned elite right away

阿杜当时并不算是精英级得分手，他当时被人称作“低效和黑洞”，场均的失误数比助攻数更多。到了第2年，阿杜则马上变成精英级了。

[–]76ersSlappyBagg 5 指標 10小時前 

KD shot 43% from the floor and 29% from 3 in his rookie season. He has elite potential but he was in no way elite. He was getting buckets but he was nowhere near the efficient scoring machine he was a few years later.

阿杜新秀赛季投篮命中率有43%，3分球29%。他有精英级的潜力，但当时并不是精英级的。他能得分，但却一点也算不上是高效的得分机器，比几年后的他差老远了。 

[–]Cavalierstapk69 3 指標 10小時前 

lol.. Durant was always a great scorer, even as a rookie he finished with 20ppg, only a few are capable of that. Ingram is a project.

哈哈。。杜兰特一直就是个出色的得分手，就算是新秀赛季也能场均20分。只有很少人能做到这点，英格兰是个未完成品项目。

[–]Nuggetsclancydog4 4 指標 10小時前 

People vastly overestimated Ingram's stroke. He is nothing compared to what KD was in his first few seasons. Sure, Ingram had a solid percentage in college, but he was taking largely open shots with a shorter line. KD came into the league with a much better ability to hit difficult shots. Plus, KD was/is notably more athletic, taller, and more skilled. And was as a rookie. Simply put, Ingram just isn't nearly as good overall in virtually every aspect.

人们极大地高估了英格拉姆的手感。他跟头几个赛季的阿杜完全没得比。当然，英格拉姆在大学时的命中率确实还靠谱，但他当时的投篮大多是空位出手，而且三分线也更短。 阿杜进入联盟时，命中高难度出手的能力就要强得多。而且阿杜很明显运动天赋更强，更高，技术更娴熟。 简单说，作为新秀，英格拉姆几乎在所有方面都比不上阿杜。

[–]WyaOfWade 4 指標 10小時前 

The only similarity is that they're both lanky af

他们之间唯一类似的就是身形都瘦长得一比。

[–]76erssnommisneb 3 指標 10小時前 

The difference? Ingram is playing strictly according to Luke's plays and not breaking them whatsoever.

Durant on the other hand was firing up shots and was free to do mostly whatever when he was in his rookie season.And Luke's basically playing the Warriors system in the Lakers.

BASICALLY INGRAM IS A BEAST WAITING TO BE FUCKING UNLEASHED.

他们的区别？ 英格拉姆严格按照沃顿的战术安排打球， 并没有越界。而另一方面，杜兰特在新秀赛季时则有无限自由的投篮开火权。 而且沃顿基本在湖人打的就是勇士那套体系。

英格拉姆可以说尼玛就是一头等待解除封印的野兽！

[–]Aahhreallmunsterssss 62 指標 13 天前 

Ingram isn't like Durant though. He plays like a mix of Leonard with more handles? Or maybe like Giannis with less athleticism but more shooting Idk, he's a point forward for sure but he isn't durant like, other then appearances

不过英格拉姆并不像杜兰特。 他的球风更像是控球更好的混合版伦纳德？ 也许又像是运动能力减弱版的字母歌，但是投射要更好些，我也确定。 他无疑是一个控锋，但除了外貌之外他并不像杜兰特。

[–]LakersZeratzul 6 指標 13 天前 

Agreed, he's only like Durant in his body size and ability to drive . He has a surprising amount of BBIQ as well, fits into systems almost seamlessly... thank you Coach K.

I haven't seen someone so skinny seek out so much contact though man. He's a tough kid in a really lanky body.

湖蜜：同意，英格拉姆只在身体尺寸上和突破能力上像阿杜。他的篮球智商也出人意料得好，几乎能无缝衔接所有体系。。。这多亏了老K教练。 我还没见过像这么瘦弱的人能这么多地寻求身体接触，他的身体很瘦，但却是个强硬的小子。